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Legal Departments of the Future Podcast

PactSafe’s “Legal Departments of the Future” podcast is hosted by PactSafe founder and CEO Brian Powers. As an attorney who’s ventured into the tech business, Brian is always looking for ways to fuse the legal and tech spaces together.
"Change is hard, so establishing a mindset is very important in terms of embracing innovation.” - Debbie Petillo, Senior Director of Legal Operations at TIBCO Software
"Automation is coming for us all—not in a bad way, but in a way that helps to improve efficiencies and increase the pace [businesses are moving]." —Vanessa Davis, Vice President, Research and Product Development at LegalZoom
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episode 12

OfferUp GC on building a legal dept from the ground up & partnering with product from day 1

In this episode, PactSafe CEO Brian Powers hosts guest Nathan Garnett, General Counsel at OfferUp. Tune in as Nathan shares his experience in building a legal department from the ground up, and why integrating into each organization within the business was crucial to the company's success. Nathan also shares how his team excels by repurposing JIRA as an effective contract management tool.

episode 11

NetDocuments GC on building the first legal team at the company

In this episode we feature guest Liz Benegas, General Counsel at NetDocuments. We talk about her approach to building the first legal team at a company that's been around for 2 decades and her unique perspective on legal tech as GC at a legal tech company.

Episode 10

thredUp GC on changes the coronavirus pandemic is likely to force on the legal profession

In this episode, PactSafe CEO Brian Powers chats with Alon Rotem, General Counsel & Head of Partnerships at thredUP.

Tune in as Brian and Alon discuss some of the challenges to building a legal department from the ground up at a unique business like thredUP, and well as his thoughts on changes the coronavirus pandemic is likely to force on the legal profession. 

Episode 9

Ep 9: CarrierHQ COO & General Counsel shares how the B2B company manages its B2C volume

In our first podcast since being in quarantine, PactSafe CEO Brian Powers chats with CarrierHQ COO & General Counsel Brion St Amour on the company's unique B2C volume, despite being a B2B business. Tune in as Brion discusses CarrierHQ's method to managing a high-velocity business, as well his unique approach to evaluating when to automate and accelerate processes with technology. 

 

 
Episode 8

How Gusto took its legal team from 2-30 & built a partnership with product

In this episode PactSafe CEO Brian Powers interviews Megan Niedermeyer and Chelsea Turner, two of the leaders of the Gusto legal team. Tune in as they discuss how they've scaled the legal team from 2-30, how they've built a super collaborative relationship with their product teams, and how they've leveraged technology to scale.

Episode 7

Marketplace Risk CEO shares why support from c-suite is crucial to your legal team's success

In this episode of Legal Departments of the Future, host and PactSafe founder and CEO Brian Powers features guest Jeremy Gottschalk, former General Councel of Sittercity and the founder and CEO of Marketplace Risk.

Tune in as Brian chats with Jeremy about his successful tenure at Sittercity and how it inspired him to launch the Marketplace Risk platform, which is pioneering the collaboration and best practice sharing among in-house lawyers across the entire online marketplace vertical.

Episode 6

How UI path scaled their legal team from 1 to 30 and introduced AI contract automation.

In this episode, Brian interviews Vasile Tiple, Deputy General Counsel for UI Path and former Senior Legal Specialist at Adobe.

Tune in as Vasile and Brian discuss how UI path scaled from a legal department of one to a team of 30 in just 3 years and how they are now leveraging AI and robots to automate legal workflows like simple redlining.

Episode 5

Why companies like Amazon are making their legal departments metrics-driven

In this podcast, Brian chats with Walker Lockhart, former Amazon Legal Council, Nordstrom Director of Product, and current EVP of a new startup Sugar Mountain.

Tune in as Walker and Brian discuss how the metrics-driven culture of Amazon helped shape the innovative and technology-embracing culture in its legal department, and why you should be looking at your legal department as more of a businesses unit, rather than how they are traditionally looked upon.

Walker also shares how his unique background as a product marketer helped drive the necessary disciplinary actions needed in leadership to successfully transform legal organizations into technology-embracing environments.

Episode 4

Eliminating silos in tech-driven legal departments

In the fourth episode of our podcast, Brian sat down with Vanessa Davis, Vice President, Research and Product Development at Legal Zoom.

Tune in as Vanessa and Brian chat about what happens when a legal department has too many technology resources that aren’t integrated across departments, and how you streamline these silos into a single solution that works for every team.

Vanessa also dives into her experience working in technology-driven legal environments, and how they have scaled growth and evaluated software solutions that improve workflows and productivity.

Episode 3

How sales and legal work with each other, not against

Podcast guest Tony Miller, a corporate attorney who’s recently moved from a long career as an in-house attorney in the fast-paced world of SaaS to the world of entrepreneurship, shares how his background as a sales rep with a law degree launched his success as an in-house attorney at large tech companies.

Episode 2

How to Embrace and Drive Innovation in Your Legal Department

"Change is hard, so establishing a mindset is very important in terms of embracing innovation.”

In this podcast, Brian sat down with Debbie Petillo, Senior Director of Legal Operations at TIBCO Software. TIBCO fuels digital business by enabling better decisions and faster, smarter actions through the TIBCO Connected Intelligence Cloud. From APIs and systems to devices and people, TIBCO interconnects everything, capturing data in real time wherever it is, and augmenting the intelligence of businesses through analytical insights.

Tune in as Brian and Debbie discuss how tech offers the potential to solve problems, and how Debbie has championed tech-driven initiatives to improve efficiencies and productivity at TIBCO.

Episode 1

How TiVo is Making Complex Legal Issues as Simple as Possible

In this podcast, Brian sat down with TiVo’s Senior Legal Counsel, Roy Zemlicka. TiVo is a consumer electronics company with technology inventions that run deep. From the creation of the interactive program guide to the DVR, TiVo continues to revolutionize how people find content in a chaotic, fragmented media landscape.

Tune in as Brian chats with Roy on how his background as an architect and UX designer led him to his career in tech at TiVo and why it’s his goal to make complex legal issues as simple as possible.